The Steam Awards 2024

[Hornet_17]

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[InvisibleFlame9]

I might get some dislikes for this. But i want to share some opinions and maybe to get some in return.

I nominated Factorio for this particular award...

Thing is, I do understand that the game is getting the needed attention from the devs since it is getting harder and harder to work on, not to mention if I had to guess it is probably the least profitable from the whole theHunter franchise. But thing is, because of all this it also feels like it is more on a 'life support' if you may. With all due respect and deep love for this game (been playing since 2009 and fell in love ever since with it) I just dont feel like it really deserves this award...

Well maybe after I explain why I voted for Factorio you will understand where I'm going with this.

So why did I choose Factorio over theHunter. The creators are a rather small group (well now after their release of the biggest and only expansion dlc I guess not so small after all) that are putting their life into this game. Each and everyone of them plays their own game just as much as everyone else. They do extensive testing and communicating with their player base. They worked on their DLC for the last 4 or 5 years. When the DLC was roughly a year from beeing released they gave us updates every Friday from smallest of details to the biggest reveals. They made a huge LAN party (roughly 200 people) a month prior to release to find as much bugs as possible. They fixed all of those bugs, some streamers after the lan party even said that bugs were beeing fixed while they were all on a lunch break. Most importantly they listen to their players, they made some adjustments after the lan party when they reviewed each and every persons review. Best part? After release they made numerous quick patch fixes to solve any missed bugs and the game is basically flawless, I dont regret spending a dime on it and so most of other people that bought it. For me it was smooth before the dlc, during the patch fixes straight after the dlc and it is as smooth as a butter a month into playing the new dlc.

Thing is I dont want you all to think that I am bragging about or praising this game and I do understand that I am talking about two completely different games and their business models but its not about the game itself or its business model, what I want to tell is the amount of really hard work and communication they've put into it. I would LOVE to see at least a fraction of this communication from theHunter team.

Give us a status update every once in a while, tell us what are the plans, open your cards just a little bit to us. Let us know at least a tiny bit of whats is going on behind the development of the game. Maybe you have something big planned, give us a tiny sneak peak. No big updates? No problem, let us know how are things going with fixing stuff around. As for an example, we are now waiting for the Whiterime Halloween event and all we know is that there is a problem with it and thats all we know, maybe a teeny weeny bit of extra information would give us a better understanding of what to expect, maybe there is a problem with the behavior of some animals, maybe it is a problem with registering something or maybe it is even a huge gamecrashing problem that you dont know a way around. It doesn't matter how bad or good it is, people would feel much better if they were more informed about it. After this Halloween event the Christmas event should start shortly I suppose, maybe we could get a nice little status update about it, maybe an estimate on when to even expect that or how long will it run for. Maybe it wont even happen knowing how hard it is to work on the game for the crew. Information is key. People love beeing informed. We then can plan our things accordingly, maybe someone is planning to have more free time during certain events and is willing to spend some cash on this game, but because that person lives in uncertainty he would better not do that?

I dont want to cause any misunderstanding here, understand that I love and adore this game, but I would love it even more if we knew just a little bit more of what is going on behind the doors.

Well said! I agree that EW doesn't deserve this award. Clearly thier priority has been in developing Call Of The Wild; not Hunter Classic. Clearly this game has fallen under neglect and it shows. I can think of other games that are almost as old as this one and those games continue to be actively developed and they keep getting better, even within the indie-game market.

I'm disappointed to see the state of development of Hunter Classic today. There's no way this game is getting my vote for any awards until that award is earned. Plus, Call Of The Wild, a game I emphatically hate, is clearly the priority of this company. Call Of The Wild in my mind, is the game equivalent of what I think of when I look at cheesy reality TV shows like "Naked And Afraid". If I was going to compare these games to TV shows in that way, Call Of The Wild is like the Naked And Afraid. Relative to that, Hunter Classic is like the Survivorman. I would vote for the Survivorman of hunting games; not the Naked And Afraid version of hunting games, if it were not for the fact that both games are owned by the same company competing for the same pool of resources. I've digressed.

The reason I mention Call Of The Wild is because Hunter Classic is my hunting game, my team, and in my eyes EW are serving (and prioritizing) a different audience (different team) by developing Call Of The Wild. I don't support 2 different hunting games standing together as if they were brothers. Again, if I was drawing a comparison to TV shows as above, it would be like Les Stroud Survivorman hugging Bear Grylls and saying, "Let's be brothers!" Of course that would be silly because anyone in their right mind knows that the 2 do not stand on equal ground in terms of quality and integrity. As I see it that is kind of what it is like by theHunter Classic standing together with Call Of The Wild under the same company. To me, I feel betrayed as a fan of theHunter Classic that EW is serving and prioritizing a different hunting game with a different audience in Call Of The Wild.

The irony is all the fancy graphics in the world doesn't make up for the fact that Call Of The Wild isn't a real hunting simulator, though it gets the lions share of the development resources. theHunter Classic is the real hunting simulator on the market, and is neglected. Who knows what this game could be like if it truly had the full attention and full staff of developers?

I would support EW being all-in with theHunter Classic, giving this game the development it needs if that was actually happening. EW could have kept developing theHunter Classic. That didn't happen. Our beloved game has fallen under neglect. Old problems keep coming back. No state for deserving an award!

[BCKidd]

When I read what is above this post, I wonder, why anyone who has those feelings would continue to play this game. Is it to simply post negativity. If you're looking for miracles- and things to be the way you want it, that ain't going to happen. The game is old, and the new team is doing whatever they can, to keep it alive for those of us who appreciate what it is we have. theHunter Classic deserves that award as much as any other game, and I hope it wins.

BCKidd.

[InvisibleFlame9]

When I read what is above this post, I wonder, why anyone who has those feelings would continue to play this game. Is it to simply post negativity. If you're looking for miracles- and things to be the way you want it, that ain't going to happen. The game is old, and the new team is doing whatever they can, to keep it alive for those of us who appreciate what it is we have. theHunter Classic deserves that award as much as any other game, and I hope it wins.

BCKidd.

"Negativity"?

Bare in mind, I've developed my previous post a little more as well as this one, as my posts often develop over some time as I remember more of what I was trying to say. What I said there is exactly what I feel about the matter. In essence, the company developing my favorite hunting game has neglected that game, and instead prioritizes most of it's resources developing another hunting game I hate. And that is no mystery because the other game (adding insult to injury), Call Of The Wild is advertised to the same audience, us who love theHunter Classic.

If you want to call theHunter Classic old, I don't think of it that way, I would say it's been neglected. Some of my other favorite games, as I've said, are equally or close to the same age. Those games are well developed, continue to be well developed, and only get better. What do these games have that causes them to withstand the test of time? For one thing they have an art style that is iconic. As much as I am a fan of theHunter, both theHunter Classic and Call Of The Wild do not have a unique art style and look to them. They match the realism that the technology at the time affords but don't have any sort of unique look to them that makes them memorable. theHunter Classic remains my favorite hunting simulator and game for a variety of reasons. There is no denying that is looks very "dated". I'd say that even though Call Of The Wild looks beautiful on the surface, the graphics are no more innovative than theHunter Classic's graphics. It's simply matching the technology at the time. It is very conventional. As I see it, there is no way to ignore this as the two games are like brothers. The problem is, the other brother that I don't like gets almost all the love.

Another thing I've noticed in some of my other favorite games is that the development team is lead by a core 'mission' and purpose with the game. Can we say that about theHunter Classic? I mean, look at how much the staff changes! It's a mess.

Lately I seem to be less motivated to throw money at this game as I did A LOT in the past. Has less to do with the conventional reasons such as dated graphical qualities, or lack of new content. For me, the persistent "bugs" in this game, especially for a game that is 15 years old, as well as for a game I have paid a lot of real money for, is wearing on my patience and interest as a player.

The seasonal "events" way to go EW! The special events, put together with the ongoing competitions is what keep this game exciting to play. However, the "bugs" are a real problem for me in this game and turn-off that seem to persist, and that is why I can't honestly vote for this game to get an award.

It's like, I was sold this game, and paid far more real money for it over the years than I have spent on all video games I've ever purchased combined. Then it was neglected and cast aside for the majority of development to be spent on Call Of The Wild. It lacks new content. That's part of it. It's buggy though, and that's huge for a game this old and one I've spent so much money on. I don't see much evidence that me spending more money on this game is helping. I'm getting to a point where I'm not willing to sell myself a game any longer that clearly is being neglected in it's development.

The only other thing I would say is this. In a similar way as a good parent doesn't train a child that the child can do no wrong, I am not rewarding what is not merited. Parent loves the child. That doesn't mean parent rewards the child for bad behavior. I don't have to vote for a game I love to receive an award when that award is not earned. How am I supposed to vote for My Team to receive an award, when that team is being neglected by the owner who owns two competing teams?

Is that what you call "negativity"? I call it 'honesty'. I call it an awakening. Whatever the case, the truth awakens us.

[Bort]

I have the same thoughts as BCKidd. The negative posts are trolls. I saw those comments a few hours ago and decided not to fall for the troll trap.
If you don't like the game stop posting here. Don't play it. Participating on these forums and continuing to play it is supporting it.

Good riddance to you both.

[OldMtnMan]

I voted for the overall hunting game that Classic is. I don't care squat about special events, so they don't affect my vote. Classic is still the best hunting game. If there was one better i'd be hunting on it.

COTW? It finally has the proper price. It's on sale for $1.99

[InvisibleFlame9]

I have the same thoughts as BCKidd. The negative posts are trolls. I saw those comments a few hours ago and decided not to fall for the troll trap.
If you don't like the game stop posting here. Don't play it. Participating on these forums and continuing to play it is supporting it.

Good riddance to you both.

Difference of opinion is not the same thing as "Trolling". Don't abuse that word.

If you knew what you were even talking about you wouldn't say that because clearly I am not falling in line with the status-quo opinions here. Clearly, I have my own independent thoughts here and I express them as I have a right to. I have just as much right to speak my thoughts honestly about this game, one of my favorite games, a game I have invested a great deal of real money in, as any of you do. Regardless of if you agree with me. Check yourself!

What I'm contributing to this thread is called honest "feedback" to the game developers. Something any game developer worth their salt would want! Notice I don't spend a lot of time 'complaining' in these forums! However, I'm not voting for a game that isn't up to the standards of what I feel deserves an award. I think there is a lot to be desired before theHunter Classic should be voted for an award, and I've well expressed my reasons for that opinion. I think if you want to throw mud at me for that, you should at least understand the words you use.

Further from the point that I'm offering 'honest feedback', I had added the point to the end of my last comment that we 'awaken to the truth'. All these recent thoughts I've had about this game have been an 'awakening' for me. Not in favor of this game! Don't get me wrong, it's still my favorite hunting game on the market. However, my "awakening" is this. Next time I ask myself if I want to spend more of my real money on this game, I don't know if I am as willing to do so as I was in the past. I don't imagine that is the kind of 'awakening' a developer would want to hear. It is still honest feedback. It's like 'awakening' to the fact that you're at the wrong job, or an 'awakening' that you're with the wrong partner. The "truth", as I said, is like that. It may **** you off at times. It is something that 'awakens' us.

If this game deserved an award in my eyes, I wouldn't be "awakening" out of my dreams for it to be the truly remarkable game I always dreamed of that I threw so much money at over the years. It would be more like an awakening to a fine morning where I see that this game is greater than I ever realized before.

[Bort]

I voted for the overall hunting game that Classic is. I don't care squat about special events, so they don't affect my vote. Classic is still the best hunting game. If there was one better i'd be hunting on it.

COTW? It finally has the proper price. It's on sale for $1.99

That price does entice me to buy it but then I remember that I'm not into it. Classic truly is the best hunting game there is and the devs are still working on it and updating it. That's what the Labor of Love award is for.

[xOEDragonx]

Please keep it civil. A difference of opinion is not trolling. It is possible to play the game without thinking it's the greatest game in the world and that everything about it is just perfect.

[BCKidd]

Please keep it civil. A difference of opinion is not trolling. It is possible to play the game without thinking it's the greatest game in the world and that everything about it is just perfect.

C'mon, it is perfect. Why else would we all still here? For the dissapointment, or for the joy it brings?

BCKidd.