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I did a quick search in the off-topic forums and did not really see an in-depth thread on the firearms industry news.
Since firearms are currently the primary method of harvesting wild game throughout modern civilization, I thought it beneficial to start a topic where we as a community can share information we find interesting or deserves highlighting.

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The recent bankruptcy of "Big Green" (aka the Remington Arms Company).

I feel this news is important since tHC has based several in-game items on Remington's designs:
  • .223 (Remington) ammo
  • 7mm (Remington) Magnum ammo
  • 7mm-08 (Remington) ammo
  • .44 (Remington) Magnum ammo
  • 12GA Pump Action Shotgun (Remington 870)
  • 10mm Semi-Auto Handgun (Remington R1 "Longslide" 10mm Hunter)
  • .45-70 GOV'T Lever Action Rifle (Originally by Marlin, but Remington acquired the Marlin brand later on)
Does this mean Remington name will no longer exist?
Technically no, but original "Remington" firearms are going to be very valuable to collectors later down the line.
The company was auctioned off into 7 major sections:
  • Vista Outdoor, Inc (Remington Ammunition)
  • Roundhill Group, LLC (Non-Marlin business and inventory; i.e. Remington firearms)
  • Sierra Bullets, L.L.C. (Barnes Ammunition
  • Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. (Marlin brand and intellectual properties)
  • JJE Capital Holdings, LLC aka "Palmetto State Armory" (DPMS, H&R, Stormlake, AAC, and Parker brands)
  • Franklin Armory Holdings, Inc. (Bushmaster brand)
  • Sportsman’s Warehouse, Inc. (Tapco brand)
Personally, I'm very interested in seeing how the Ruger/Marlin pairing is going to affect the lever gun market.
I thought Remington was one of those companies "too big to fail", but like Winchester before it, time, mismanagement, and people took its toll.

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References
< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlin_Firearms >
< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Arms >
< https://www.ammoland.com/2020/09/result ... z6g4V2elxu >
< https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/tow ... e-73955342 >
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Saw this the other day. A friend posted that Marlin was going out of business. But Ruger says they plan to continue the Marlin brand, and should be back up & manufacturing soon, to release their first weapons next year.
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I saw on the Ruger website that they are planning on the later half of 2021, but that's pushing it IMO.
Hopefully Ruger won't skimp on quality the way Remington did during their first runs of the Marlin products.
It's funny, since Marlin just expanded their products lines just this past year and now Ruger is going to probably go back to basics for a while.

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In other lever-action news:

Henry Repeating Arms is updating most, if not all, of their "legacy" centerfire lever action models to include the side loading gates.
< https://www.henryusa.com/news/out-with- ... -shotguns/ >

The timing for that change could not have been better since Henry will definitely catch a bunch of lever action enthusiasts looking for something besides first production run Marlins under Ruger.
I'm not saying Ruger is going to sabotage the Marlin name, but lever-actions are a different direction for the company (the Ruger No.1, notwithstanding)
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i wouldnt worry about Remington, the brand has changed hands,changed holding companys, bought other brands out, had govenrment bailouts and restructured so many times its become the norm. All i know is that remington and pretty much all of the big US gun makers dont make quality high end guns that the name carrys anymore. they make reliable budget guns. best way i can put it is "theyre not bad given how cheap they are". they off the shelf guns are about 2/3s as good as the EU stuff for half the price.

I mean it in a nice way.

i own 5 guns and 4 of them are yank built.
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Observing the current marketplace offerings, US and EU design philosophies are on opposing ends of the "function:form" & "quantity:quality" spectrums.
There are exceptions to the rule but it's what the respective populations demand.

Remington had this coming after struggling these past few years and I think this is probably the best thing that could have happened to the company.
Put the old girl down to rest finally.
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Savage Arms Introduces Its First Straight Pull Rifle: IMPULSE

< https://savagearms.com/content?p=news&i=64 >

I know in Europe that straight pull action rifles are nothing new - just look at the Blaser R8 and Merkel Helix in this game - but in the US market straight pulls are an obscurity.
Technically speaking though, if one is just looking at the manual forward/rearward movement of the bolt, then lever-actions and pumps-actions are a "kind" of American straight pull actions.
It is still refreshing to see a contemporary American take on a predominantly European action.
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I think there's plenty of reasons for difficulties with a couple of those names. First is the rage of AR style caliber offerings that really can be bought quite reasonably priced and even cheaper built from kits. Also the AR15 and AR10 can handle a lot of calibers much cheaper than a premium bolt gun - and you're right, FINALLY a straight pull, what took so long? Marlin and Henry rule the lever guns.
On the other hand, politics, Government and that hell hole pairing of topics is also a contributing factor. Throw in the legalities, sue potential, class action possibilities and the endless litigation in courts funded by activists here and abroad and it's a soup sandwich.
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New Cartridge: 6.8 Western by Browning & Winchester

< https://www.outdoorlife.com/story/guns/ ... inchester/ >
< https://www.gohunt.com/read/skills/brow ... #gs.qs9nrq >
< https://www.gameandfishmag.com/editoria ... dge/387680 >
< https://www.wideopenspaces.com/6-8-western-cartridge/ >
< https://www.americanhunter.org/articles ... 68-western >

From what I've gleaned from the articles, the 6.8 Western is suppose to be an even shorter version of the .270 WSM.
The overall length of the cartridge is about as long as a 2-3/4 shotgun shell (70-74mm) but is capable of delivering more power than the 7mm Rem Mag and .300 Win Mag.
Kinda cool how the firearms industry is always trying to shorten magnums.
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Pretty crazy with everything going on right now in the firearms industry with ammo shortages and what not. All I know is that if they don't get some back in stock soon I'm screwed for firearms season next year. I'm down to my last 3 rounds. If I'd known this was coming I'd have bought more than one box last year.
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its 100% controlled and intentional im sure. the US always seems to have an ammo shortage crisis.and it never affects the Uk at all we can still buy everything fine with no shortage and its all US manufactured stuff. i know you guys shoot way more than us but you still dont shoot more than they can manufacture. a big plant at full chat will knowck out 100,000 a day. if they starve the market when they reflood it you all bulk buy at silly prices. why would they make a supply to meet demand?.....
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